tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post8075467680226977576..comments2023-10-30T05:14:24.289-07:00Comments on CNC Sociology 2010: The Ever Present PoorDr Lionel Douglashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16916389303704706549noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-28029035195050227712010-12-08T03:51:50.834-08:002010-12-08T03:51:50.834-08:00I do not believe that poverty can be eradicated an...I do not believe that poverty can be eradicated and its not a waste of time in trying to.In trying to eradicate poverty Man has always been searching, trough this Scientists have found methods on how to alleviate the suffering of the poor.Yes, Jesus says that the poor we will have always,but he also says to feed the hungry clothed the naked, and shelter the homeless. As long as poverty exists, trying to eradicate is not a waste of time.shirley felicianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04695218458344167838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-67584292032280240392010-12-07T12:48:36.691-08:002010-12-07T12:48:36.691-08:00Who did Jesus tell that the poor would be with the...Who did Jesus tell that the poor would be with them always? I missed Trinidad or the universal church in that statement. Poverty eradication is only possible when everyone takes responsibility for it. It is unreasonable to expect that we all start off at vastly different starting points and yet have an equal chance of finishing at the same point. <br /><br />Very key issues such as resources, availability of mechanisms that support the maximum benefits of education, subsequent work opportunities, neighbourhoods and the quality of family life which is being impacted on all of the above and impacting them as well, place the poor in a significantly disadvantaged starting point.<br /><br />That there are a handful of people that are able through wider exposure, external support, or blinded motivation to escape the grips of poverty, should not be used as a standard to condemn those that are not as fortunate. <br /><br />The society as a whole, has to take the hand of their poorer counterparts, and teach them, support them, reward their efforts, train them, subsidize them during their progress. <br /><br />Thankfully in Trinidad we seem to be getting the hang of it, so that once a person makes it passed the CXC level, a well balanced support system is available to support the acquisition of a first degree. If this principle is replicated, monitored and revised in the different essential areas, there is definitely hope for the eradication of povertyNichollehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12074785577788794405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-1550369666589325752010-12-03T14:06:41.634-08:002010-12-03T14:06:41.634-08:00Now I do believe that the levels of poverty can be...Now I do believe that the levels of poverty can be managed and corrected, but it is not my belief that poverty can be totally eradicated. There are some groups in society that are comforted in their state and are too slothful to make an effort to work and come out of a lifestyle of poverty. You may give them $500,000.00 and in two years time they will be in lack and poor once again.Bryant.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17190633026474995364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-40811206343820353932010-12-03T14:00:32.783-08:002010-12-03T14:00:32.783-08:00The ruling class possesses the factors of producti...The ruling class possesses the factors of production (land, capital, labour, power etc) and therefore rule over the subject class. So there is constant conflict between the two. Since the ruling class is in control of the many institutions and organizations in society the miserable cycle will always continue.Bryant.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17190633026474995364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-89460187375109297192010-12-03T13:58:36.380-08:002010-12-03T13:58:36.380-08:00I believe because of the way the social stratifica...I believe because of the way the social stratification systems are designed, there will always be the poor and in the same regard, the rich. The social classes are constructed and managed in such a way that makes it difficult for any switching between them. It is also naturally more possible to become poor than for one to become rich.Bryant.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17190633026474995364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-31199217167782162922010-12-02T12:39:41.402-08:002010-12-02T12:39:41.402-08:00I agree with Michael....distinguising why people a...I agree with Michael....distinguising why people are poor is two-fold. It is a result of slothfulness as well as circumstances beyond the individuals control.Cherisse Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02161901156819041205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-2534461109242140222010-11-29T17:54:13.484-08:002010-11-29T17:54:13.484-08:00I do not believe that trying to eradicate poverty ...I do not believe that trying to eradicate poverty is a waste of time because I do not think that any one wants to be poor and people are poor not by choice, different circumstances just happens. I believe people who are poor are those who lack certain basic necessities and people who live in poverty are generally without everything at all times were as the poor only lack some. Social exclusion is geared to not make anyone of a lesser status feel bad because of how much or money or lack of they have. This question can be answer with a yes and no answer because some people throughout their lives have a hard time and some get so relaxed in their position that they never move.Michael Poyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05661578753709325863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-72853485918421631032010-11-29T13:44:47.979-08:002010-11-29T13:44:47.979-08:00the question to ask is in waht contect was jesus s...the question to ask is in waht contect was jesus speakin when he said the poor will always be with us, it think to make a statement and coming to such a conclusion an in the process make such a desision would be alittle hasty, even thought the less portunate in terms of persons that have material mobility will always be on earth, does that mean that man should live disregarding these individuals, because i am sure that something can definitly be done to atleast shiff the bar or ulter the state that the lest fortunate people are presently in.kerylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12395341978816373994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-61589303062204634832010-11-29T13:37:35.247-08:002010-11-29T13:37:35.247-08:00solomon spoke of wisdom and its benifits in many o...solomon spoke of wisdom and its benifits in many of his proverbs, if its one thing that can be concluded form these provebs is that the wisdom is the ability to effectively apply that which you have into a formula that is going to supply you with some form of mobility in the end. this was a testimony of solomon's wisdom, if digent hands is , say a formular that is going to cure poverty, then im just saying that their are other variables that needs to be taken into consideration to bring about the desired result. not being slutful os not the bottom line.kerylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12395341978816373994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-23230802326519887452010-11-29T13:30:31.649-08:002010-11-29T13:30:31.649-08:00deligence does not necessarily mean that one is go...deligence does not necessarily mean that one is going to work there way out of a state of poverty, if the definition that were using for poverty is statint that is is when one is in a state of deprivation and insufficency then to clame that one can ever all can achieve a social strat that is equal across the bord in this capitalist society is heracy.kerylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12395341978816373994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-80344766907265872162010-11-28T15:24:01.438-08:002010-11-28T15:24:01.438-08:00Answering the first part of the question, i do not...Answering the first part of the question, i do not believe that poverty eradication is a waste of time because people who need help, accept the help that is given to them. Yes, the poor may always be with us but I believe that it is their personal choice to remain poor in the midst of the eradication efforts that are afforded to them. Why? Sometimes it can be pride thats stopping them or even ignorance. It is my hope that one day poverty would be gone!Genevievehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13536515382433454899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-22168103516187009382010-11-28T15:18:43.402-08:002010-11-28T15:18:43.402-08:00I think that being slothful can lead to being poor...I think that being slothful can lead to being poor, however sometimes people are working day in and day out trying to provide for their family but it just is not enough. I think it depends on where the person works and how far the money has to stretch. I do believe that one can do what needs to be done by getting a better education to get more money but at the end of the day a person needs money to go to school as well. So yes i believe it is true that slothfulness leads to poverty but sometimes a person can be a victim of circumstanceGenevievehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13536515382433454899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-90703207541957975462010-11-28T02:19:00.641-08:002010-11-28T02:19:00.641-08:00Jesus' statement was in no way an indication t...Jesus' statement was in no way an indication that people should always be poor. Jesus' reference was simply to explain that He would be leaving and the poor who were there would be there after He has gone. The opportunity to help the poor will present itself atnother time. Since we live in a capitalist society where divisions are real, the poor will always be there. Poverty eradication is not a waste of time. Society must do all it can to make life easier for the less fortunate. The society is usually the cause of poverty in the first place. Poverty eradication is a necessity.ASmithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08568757114138247791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-71212708467834779412010-11-26T08:01:09.466-08:002010-11-26T08:01:09.466-08:00Poverty and the eradication, like all other effort...Poverty and the eradication, like all other efforts, such as crime, discrimination, racism as espoused by governments and global leaders using the term eradication, which in my view is like not being in touch or aware of the state of human nature and systems when used!!! or could it be just mentioned to give the masses false hope. Do these people really want to help eradicate poverty or can they? I think that poverty can be used to gain political mileage, the lower echelons of society are always placed in a position of want and yes those needs are delivered, but in meager amounts to create dependency by government for continued governance. <br /><br /> I remain constant in my view that the only real answer to this issue is through training and development, all through which can be achieved through education. It is therefore the divine will power that was given to all mankind to combat the oppression for betterment if they so chooses, for those who were born into poverty conditions, yet they are not isolated nor unexposed as to the way of life of others and if they are not so affected to question and seek for themselves, then therein lies both the answer and problem.heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03600927035917645535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-59728930875553784142010-11-20T08:36:45.021-08:002010-11-20T08:36:45.021-08:00Does that mean poverty eradication is a waste of t...Does that mean poverty eradication is a waste of time?<br />In light of the above statement, taken from the scriptures clearly stated that, Jesus said, " that the poor you'll always have with you," which can make my response a bit difficult, to wonder, if poverty irradication is a waste of time.According to Jesus statement, it may very well be pertaing to more than one meaning. Since, he may have also used that statement in two context. One might be through the eyes of the human heart as saying " blessed are the poor in heart" refering to those who are living a true christian life. <br />Then on the other hand, he might have also been addressing the issue of poverty as a general statement through prophesy. He knowing that throughout the years the poor will always be a part of the communities and society. Many of those, who he refered too was that of beggers/ destitutes, and who would be dependant on that of their basic needs. Therefore,here in Sweet T&T there is belief that poverty can and has been irradicated to some extent. But like the scripture said, there is certainly no secret, as it reminds us on the constant reality of poor people again and again rising up in Society. <br />This whole system tends to operate as a cycle,going round and round through generation after generation in the same or similar manner. Trying to determine if poverty eradication is really a waste of time.For reasons seeing,that it is a continued recurrance year after year. <br />Hence, I feel convince that here in T&T country, some people become poor for a season and others a lifetime. So with that in my mind total irradication seems lesser and lesser possible at this point time. <br /><br /><br />The question is, if poor and poverty are the same? <br />To me poor and proverty are not exactly the same,what they are is similar to that of a family who relate. We all know that there are many families who relate in one way or the next,but diagree in other ways. Well, similarly those who are poor and those who live all their lives in poverty, lack basic needs. However when we look at their short term and long term needs, they may have some similarities and effects. Take for instance, a person who is considered poor, might not be able to have any access to all those basic necessities, that they is needed to be luxurious or matetially prosperous, but could some day have the opportunity presented to them,if they are mentally motivated or is skilled in a particular field and wants to move up in live. So whether it be a job that they needed to have or perhaps to survive a broken marriage with children on their own, the fact remains that there poor situation can still change at some time. It is true some may argue that the same can be said for one living in poverty. Yes, but many a time poverty is found and influenced amongst a particular group or place of an envirnment where those people, do not only lack their basic needs, but that they live under such terrible conditions,that it seems almost hope less to restore. <br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />What about Social Exclution is a fancy name designed to cloud the real issues of poverty or is it a progressive name including the poor and more?<br />Social exclusion is designed to cloud the real issues of poverty,or is it progressive including the poor and more.Many people have blamed the state, according to reseachers who made emphasis that society has failed to irradicate poverty and social exclution. However,"Maxist" believe that poverty and social exclution are inherent and inevirtable consequences of capitalism, unless there is to be total transformation so therefore, no matter how the presence of poverty is discribed, it can't be ignored that it is a real issue that confronts us throughout society regardless to creed or race old/ young the fact of the matter is that we can find a way to work around it. So we can iliminate its presence.Joanne Alleynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13693021149034021119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-20965576090436212592010-11-20T07:49:10.887-08:002010-11-20T07:49:10.887-08:00Jesus said that "The Poor you would have with...Jesus said that "The Poor you would have with you always". Does that mean that poverty eradication is a waste of time?<br /><br />In support of our debate presented last week, I must reiterate that poverty eradication is a dream, and not a realistic expectation. I do not think that poverty will ever be totally eliminated, not simply because of the biblical reference but because the causes of poverty are so multifaceted that addressing all of them effectively may not be entirely possible. The next issue questions whether society as a whole wants to eradicate poverty. I believe poverty eradication requires a collective effort on the part of governments and all members of society. I am yet to believe that this is the case, as much as they may see the need to help the poor. I still applaud the efforts of many countries and societies who have embarked on poverty eradication ventures. I would not say however that poverty eradication is a waste of time. I say this because attempts to eradicate poverty in the past have resulted in major reductions in the poverty rate, which shows that there are results to their efforts.Cherisse Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02161901156819041205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-34510146236755544842010-11-15T18:58:00.235-08:002010-11-15T18:58:00.235-08:00Poverty is a side effect of capitalism. Most socie...Poverty is a side effect of capitalism. Most societies today follow the structure of capitalism so it is practically impossible to eliminate this social ill. The ruling class will continue to get richer and more selfish for as long as they could. They are the more powerful individuals and influence government polices which work more in their favor and less to benefit poor citizens. To empower the working class will benefit society however it will affect the power of the ruling class. As such no steps will be used to stop poverty. But governments will use strategies to make the working class "believe" that the issue is being addressed<br />TessaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09883271116049630736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-3196584961342045962010-11-10T11:01:18.499-08:002010-11-10T11:01:18.499-08:00I believe that poverty can be reduced and not elim...I believe that poverty can be reduced and not eliminated, however i think that its a cycle since there a lot of people who have made a decision to strive for a better life, the power of choice allows us to make decisions for transformation. I view it as a cycle since those who have made the decision for a differnce can testify to a former life of poverty, even some of us who may have had some hard times in our early life, and by making something of ourselves we have today a better quality of life for ourselves and our children.heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03600927035917645535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-61402817299264217272010-11-07T15:06:19.333-08:002010-11-07T15:06:19.333-08:00Poverty eradication can be seen as a waste of time...Poverty eradication can be seen as a waste of time if the persons involve makes a conscience decision to remain in their present state. However it does not reject the reality that it can be done.Two of the streams that make this possible are Education and Inspiration. Once someone is inspired to reach forward and educated alone the lines poverty eradication is possible.Apphia Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168335686577363058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-72397888595841102782010-11-07T15:02:41.455-08:002010-11-07T15:02:41.455-08:00Crime and Deviance
Has the deviant made the socie...Crime and Deviance<br /><br />Has the deviant made the society or the socity the deviant? Deviance has become relative because of the way society sees it. This is contrary to the way God sees it. Standards shifts based on society's culture and customs. Sin is missing the mark. That is God's standard, and not society's. In some societies, it is deviant to worship God. Is that being relative?Ansyl Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15409207761674377918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-67944327056480931352010-11-07T14:56:14.984-08:002010-11-07T14:56:14.984-08:00Jesus comments on having the poor always was in re...Jesus comments on having the poor always was in response to the disciples secret misjudgement on wastage. While there are efforts and programs designed to eradicate poverty, the poor will always have. People are poor for different reasons; some because of their own doing and others because of unfortunate circumstances. There is a big difference between poverty and being poor. Poverty comes with a mindset; the poor inherited it. I agree that poverty is an excuse for laziness and slothfulness. Based on biblical principles, the diligent will not be poor.Ansyl Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15409207761674377918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-56716645579281586702010-11-07T14:55:20.323-08:002010-11-07T14:55:20.323-08:00I believe that poor signifies your present financi...I believe that poor signifies your present financil status but when you speak of poverty it speaks of a frame of mind, a lifestyle.I believe that poverty can be seen as laziness and slothfulness because when considering the opportunity of elevating yourself but when you fail to do so and chose to remain in the same position I think it is fear to say that some states of poverty stems from laziness and slothfulness.Apphia Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168335686577363058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-21951773147914387352010-11-05T09:54:33.218-07:002010-11-05T09:54:33.218-07:00The words poor and poverty are used interchangeabl...The words poor and poverty are used interchangeably. I do not believe it should be used that way. I think you can be poor yet not living in poverty. Poverty can be eradicated to some extent however the poor and poverty will always be /live among us. I agree that the diligent will not be poor, because through hard work and sacrifice one can come out from under the banner of being poor. My grandfather used to always say"By the sweat of your brow you shall eat bread" Mc Lawrence Markie Brereton.Arianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16306034919393140813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-12587304825749560282010-11-04T20:34:39.442-07:002010-11-04T20:34:39.442-07:00I agree with Cherrise, I also believe that Trinida...I agree with Cherrise, I also believe that Trinidad and Tobago has been blessed with many opportunities to better themselves as a result of the various programs and that it is utter laziness as to why some people don't take advantage of them, however I must also say that there are some cases that we may not know of where people are so poor that they don't even have access to the information out there. Personally I do not believe that poverty eradication is a waste of time because although we may never completely get rid of poverty at least we can try to see how best we can decrease the number of people in that position.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14670163165079387112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643105156753509272.post-32673330818767877622010-11-01T09:54:41.444-07:002010-11-01T09:54:41.444-07:00Marilyn said:
I believe some people may find thems...Marilyn said:<br />I believe some people may find themselves in a position where they are not being able to adequately provide for their basic needs. This is because of some physical or mental challenges. On the other hand there are those who choose to remain in their poverty condition because of a mindset or mere laziness. According to Proverbs 10:15, it states, “The wealth of the rich is their fortified city, but poverty is the ruin of the poor”( NIV). The poor ruin of the poor is their poverty. Poverty sometimes follows poverty and it is so difficult to break the cycle. Some people who grow in poverty may even lack the possible skills that would enable them to come out of poverty.Marilyn Georrgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10419508618428075647noreply@blogger.com